it's not easy deleting people.

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Why did you decide not to delete his entry?

Are you trying to preserve certain memories by keeping it? What do you think will happen if you remove it?

A very touching post, btw.

i hv a friend who died of cancer 1.5 yrs ago. i still have his number in my phone... he's a dear friend n i miss him still. :(
This will probably piss some people off, but that wouldn't be the first time.

I've never had a whole lot of sympathy for people who commit suicide, both in the abstract (people I don't know) and in the literal sense. Two of my fraternity brothers committed suicide at very different times in their lives.

One was a pledge brother of mine. He never talked about it, but the inordinate amount of pressure his father put on him didn't make it surprising. This kid could have woken up one morning, turned water to wine and done miracle after miracle and his dad would have bitched him out because he didn't do it right. I felt bad for him as he was truly a friend, but I can't say I've thought of him much over the years.

The other guy was two years older than me and suicide was a family tradition. His dad had done it, as had his granddad and he regularly talked about doing it himself. The one time he made the mistake of saying it to me I tore him a new one and told him I thought it was one of the most cowardly things a person could do because of all the damage left behind to family and friends. I think it might have been the first time anyone fired back at him on this because he was stunned.

Unfortunately, he waited until he had a wife and two kids before he decided he couldn't handle life's pressures. I feel a heck of a lot of sympathy for them and the situation they've been left with but not too much for him. If he was going to do it he should have done so before he would be leaving three other people in the lurch.

I have trouble fathoming how any American could consider there life so bad that ending it was the only viable option.

Depression runs in the female side of my wife's family and she and my sister in law are very vigilant in taking care of it (in my wife's case) or in my SIL's case making sure the symptoms don't sneak up on them. Both of these guys had people they could have gone to for support, it staggers me that they didn't do so.

Ok, I'm done meandering about now.
I don't know why I kept his entry. For the longest time, my mobile had his phone number in it too. It wasn't until I got my current mobile that I finally decided not to move his phone number and finally deleted it. I guess finally letting go of his email address would mean that I would be saying goodbye to him for good.

It's hard letting go of people. I'm sorry for your loss.
I know your feelings about suicide quite well. I can understand your views on it, but I can also understand those who do choose to commit suicide. I know that it's unfair and wrong and selfish, but sometimes all those things can be eclipsed when someone's mind has wandered to the point of considering it.

While it makes me incredibly angry when a friend commits suicide, it also leaves me feeling helpless and sad. The anger abates in time, but the feelings of helplessness and sadness take much longer to leave me. I'm not sure if I will ever relieve myself of those feelings.
interesting post and comments.
I think anger is a pretty fair response as well. People who commit suicide have no idea of the kind of destruction they leave in their wakes. And so often it's people who seem to have so much to live for that do it.
How strange that our posts have overlapped. I have only lost one friend and I'm thankful that it was not because she committed suicide. That would have been far harder to come to terms with. I can understand how you can feel reluctant to delete your friends name from your contact list because in a way these are the only 'things' that still remain of him. However, I would find it quite disturbing to come across an email address that is still active but without a living person at the other end.
I think you are right that I keep his address book entry because I feel like it would be erasing him completely from my life. I don't know that the email still works (I imagine it doesn't). I haven't had the guts to try it to see if it did!
There is a significant difference between "erasing" and releasing someone. Food for contemplation.
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you have such a pretty way of writing, i'm not sure how do it. i guess it's your voice, anyways, i'm so sorry for your loss. completely selfish of him if you ask me but i'm sure he had a good enough reason, i mean that is a HUGE step. =T i'd keep him in my address book too, just so that when i see his name i'd remember the good times.
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There are times when people make their lives out to be happier than they really are. I know for a long time I was so terribly depressed I pondered committing suicide. I chose not to in the end because I have two children, pregnant with the third child and would have left behind a spouse as well. I evenutally realized that this would never make anything better. I'd be gone and my kids would be without a mother.

We had a friend who committed suicide... We knew he was depressed, and my spouse was torn by it... but we're all still living and he could have always gotten help, but sometimes people can't see the positive side of anything and it just gets overwhelming.

Great post. Thank you.

Call me sentimental, but I haven't deleted a handful of people from my address book who have died. When I come across their name, it reminds me of when they were here, and the great times that we had when they were still alive. I guess in that sense, it helps me to not forget.
Yeah... it's still tough to erase him, even though he's almost faded from my memory. I do remember a lot of the laughs we shared and such, but oddly enough, I can't remember a lot of the other parts of our friends. I suppose it's good that I don't remember any of the disagreements or differences of opinion!
It's hard telling people how it really is inside your head. Almost impossible for most of us I think. People don't like it when you're not happy, and sometimes people don't know how to react. Then again... those good friends who get you will always want to hear about the bad bits as well as the good.

Thank you for coming and commenting. I really appreciate it.
I'm a sentimental bastard too when it comes to people who have passed away. I think it's good to remember them and to think of all the good times you had with them. Remember the bad stuff never helps anyone...

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